porque sueño, no estoy loco ... http://leolo.blogspirit.com/vivienda_urbanismo_ot_y_ma/ Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:42:17 +0200 blogSpirit.com All Rights Reserved http://leolo.blogspirit.com/archive/2008/08/12/son-las-reservas-idiota-son-las-reservas.html http://leolo.blogspirit.com/archive/2008/08/12/son-las-reservas-idiota-son-las-reservas.html noreply@blogspirit.com (Javier Burón Cuadrado) Vivienda, Urbanismo, OT y MA Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:25:00 +0200 <p><img name="media-234707" src="http://leolo.blogspirit.com/media/01/02/0798bdfc776fe3e45b09d6e2f0d11045.jpg" alt="69d79217640a118768003becd4d54013.jpg" style="float: left; margin: 0.2em 1.4em 0.7em 0px; border-width: 0px" id="media-234707" />Al leer el artículo de la Ministra de Vivienda Beatriz Corredor <a href="http://www.elpais.com/articulo/opinion/suelo/publico/basta/elpepiopi/20080805elpepiopi_5/Tes">"Con el suelo público no basta"</a>, me ha venido a la cabeza la célebre frase <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_the_economy,_stupid">"E<em>s la economía estúpido, es la economía"</em></a>que le dió buena parte de su primera victoria electoral a Clinton.</p> <p><strong>Dice la Ministra de Vivienda</strong>(ya sabéis que yo opino que el Ministro de Vivienda es Solbes, pero ...) <strong>que para hacer mucha vivienda protegida no basta con el suelo público y que hay que comprar suelo a los promotores privados.</strong></p> <p>Y yo me pregunto, <font color="#000080"><strong>¿para que tenemos entonces las reservas legales de suelo para vivienda protegida tanto en suelo urbano como en urbanizable y ahora además con carácter de estándar legal común a todas las CCAA&nbsp;(mínimo estatal del 30%)?</strong></font> <strong><font color="#FF0000">¿No será mejor hacer que esas reservas legales produzcan suelo para cientos de miles de viviendas protegidas por el mero avance de los planeamientos urbanísticos municipales y costando al contribuyente solo el valor legal del suelo de vivienda protegida (siempre menos dle 20% del módulo de vpo)?</font></strong></p> <p><font color="#000000">De ahí el título del post: son las reservas estúpido, son las reservas.</font></p> <p>PD: no estoy llamando estúpido a nadie, si acaso, a mi mismo por leer el artículo sin caer en lo de las reservas hasta el final; el artículo de la Ministra de Vivienda contiene cosas interesantes (más vivienda protegida, más alquiler, más rehabilitación, etc) con las que yo comulgo, pero para las que ella no tiene competencias (son de las CCAA y de los ayuntamientos), este solo es un comentario sobre la esencia de nuestro sistema urbanístico y no sobre tal o cual declaración de tal o cual político y <strong>me reafirmo en la bondad de las reservas legales vascas del 75% de las viviendas en suelo urbanizable y el 40% en suelo urbano, ambas como mínimo, siendo posibles reservas municipalmente decididas mayores, que producen suelo para vivienda protegida en una cantidad que no hace que la 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DE LOS PRECIOS DE LA VIVIENDA LIBRE ¿CUAL ES LA DIFERENCIA FUNDAMENTAL ENTRE VITORIA Y DONOSTI?</a></li> <li><a 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CIELO ESTA ENLADRILLADO</a></li> </ul> <span class="technoratitag">Technorati Tags: <a rel="tag" href="http://www.technorati.com/tags/Beatriz+Corredor">Beatriz Corredor</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://www.technorati.com/tags/Ministra+de+Vivienda">Ministra de Vivienda</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://www.technorati.com/tags/suelo+p%C3%BAblico">suelo público</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://www.technorati.com/tags/reservas+legales+de+suelo+para+vivienda+protegida">reservas legales de suelo para vivienda protegida</a></span> http://leolo.blogspirit.com/archive/2008/08/12/periodismo-creativo-minipisos-de-70-metros-cuadrados.html http://leolo.blogspirit.com/archive/2008/08/12/periodismo-creativo-minipisos-de-70-metros-cuadrados.html noreply@blogspirit.com (Javier Burón Cuadrado) Vivienda, Urbanismo, OT y MA Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:05:00 +0200 <p><img name="media-234697" src="http://leolo.blogspirit.com/media/01/00/fb0542632faf2eeb619aaff25df9d1b5.jpg" alt="5d8f92c57ea00f0722351707dce000e9.jpg" style="float: left; margin: 0.2em 1.4em 0.7em 0px; border-width: 0px" id="media-234697" />Leo en la prensa de este agosto, primer aniversario de la crisis de las <em>subprime</em>, que <strong>el Gobierno Vasco va a empezar, a través de Visesa, la promoción de 850 viviendas protegidas de 70 metros cuadrados de superficie media en Vitoria - Gasteiz.</strong></p> <p>Si tenemos en cuenta que la mayor parte de las personas que están inscritas en Etxebide en esa ciudad tienen menos de 35 años y demandan vivienda ellas solas, que hasta la fecha el Ayuntamiento de Vitoria-Gasteiz había permitido hacer solo viviendas de 90 metros cuadrados&nbsp;y que el suelo es un recurso escaso que debe ser utilizado con criterios sostenibles medioambientalmente, se comprenderá que tiene su lógica hacer viviendas de menos de 90 metros cuadrados (más garaje y trastero).</p> <p>Lo que es increible es que un periodista pueda titular que <a href="http://www.elcorreodigital.com/alava/20080810/alava/primeros-minipisos-protegidos-empezaran-20080810.html">"Los primeros 850 MINIPISOS protegidos empezaran a construirse este año"</a>. <strong><font color="#000080">¿Como se puede considerar una vivienda de 70 metros cuadrados, más garaje y trastero un minipiso? ¿En que palacio vive el periodista para poder considerar 70 metros para una sola persona un minipiso? ¿No había nada más sobre lo que titular dada la sequía informativa <em>agostil</em>?</font></strong> <strong><font color="#000080">No sigo, que me enciendo.</font></strong></p> <p><font color="#000080"><font color="#000000">Por ponerlo en positivo, <strong><font color="#FF0000">no creo que sea ecológico, socialmente util y adecuado a los múltiples tipos de familias actuales hacer viviendas protegidas solo de 90 metros cuadrados. El programa constructivo de Administraciones y promotores privados tiene que ser variado y no cabe el monoproducto.</font></strong>&nbsp;A algunos parece que cualquier vivienda que tenga menos de 90 metros cuadrados les parece un minipiso. Los minipisos son otra cosa y ya hablaremos de ello otro día.</font></font></p> <p>Cosas veredes, amigo Sancho.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <span class="technoratitag">Technorati Tags: <a rel="tag" href="http://www.technorati.com/tags/minipisos">minipisos</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://www.technorati.com/tags/vivienda+protegida">vivienda protegida</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://www.technorati.com/tags/Gobierno+Vasco">Gobierno Vasco</a>, <a rel="tag" href="http://www.technorati.com/tags/Visesa">Visesa</a></span> http://leolo.blogspirit.com/archive/2008/08/06/el-pp-a-traves-del-dinero-publico-de-las-ccaa-por-ellos-gest.html http://leolo.blogspirit.com/archive/2008/08/06/el-pp-a-traves-del-dinero-publico-de-las-ccaa-por-ellos-gest.html noreply@blogspirit.com (Javier Burón Cuadrado) Vivienda, Urbanismo, OT y MA Wed, 6 Aug 2008 12:20:00 +0200 <p><img name="media-232484" src="http://leolo.blogspirit.com/media/01/02/219d5eb0cc72fe3e01dbeb5ec15e8a45.jpg" alt="cf3a7328c5fab29b7dfe85d29fb7ff34.jpg" style="float: left; margin: 0.2em 1.4em 0.7em 0px; border-width: 0px" id="media-232484" />Leo en la prensa de principios de agosto (hay cosas que es bueno decirlas en agosto, cuando casi nadie atiende) que <a href="http://www.expansion.com/edicion/exp/funcion_publica/gestion_y_clima_laboral/es/desarrollo/1152990.html"><strong>la Comunidad Autónoma ha puesto en pié un plan público para hacer que más de 25.000 viviendas libres que no encuentran comprador puedan ser vendidas</strong></a>. <strong>Para tal fin, el Gobierno de Madrid, los bancos y cajas y los notarios van a poner sus medios al servicio de la venta de 25.000 viviendas por unos precios un 20% inferiores a los del mercado. Las viviendas que se vendan a través de este sistema serán viviendas libres y sus propietarios las podrán vender al precio que deseen después de haberlas comprado.</strong></p> <p>Me surgen varias preguntas. <em>¿Como el Gobierno de la CA de Madrid que siempre ha sido uno de los menos activos en la producción de vivienda protegida -la de verdad- ahora pierde el culo por socorrer a las empresas del sector con medios públicos? ¿Como es posible que el Gobierno de Doña Esperanza Aguirre haya sido insensible con el problema de cientos de miles de madrileños para acceder a una vivienda digna a precios razonables y sin embargo ahora sea tan sensible con las dificultades de un lobby empresarial que se ha hecho de platino en los últimos años especialmente en Madrid?</em> <em>¿Como es posible que la CA que ha inventado "las esperancitas" -viviendas en teoría protegidas y de alquiler, pero que en siete años se convierten en viviendas libres, en propiedad y con todo tipo de pelotazos perfectamente lagales-, tenga ahora la cara de poner lo público al servicio de las promotoras e inmobiliarias sin exigir ninguna contraprestación a cambio para el interés general?.</em></p> <p>No tengo nada en contra de garantizar la venta de stock de vivienda que no encuentre comprador. No soy un maximalista antimercado (solo soy un socialista).&nbsp;<strong><font color="#000080">Pero si a unos empresarios que han hecho muy mal su trabajo</font></strong> (han comprado suelo caro, han promovido vivienda, se han quedado sin financiación bancaria y no tiene compradores) <strong><font color="#000080">y se les socorre con medios públicos hay que conseguir contrapartidas para el interés general.</font></strong> <strong><font color="#000000">En este caso la contrapartida está clara: si las empresas del sector tienen dificultad para vender vivienda y quieren la ayuda pública, tienen que convertir sus viviendas libres en viviendas protegidas (con todo lo que eso supone -sorteo público, precios marcados por la Administración y dos o tres veces inferiores a los del mercado, calificación como vivienda protegida de por vida, etc-). Y si no quieren venderlas como protegidas siempre pueden venderlas como libres, pero reduciendo sustancialmente sus precios.</font></strong></p> <p><font color="#000080"><strong>Pero en Madrid las cosas van por otros derroteros. Los empresarios no pueden vender sus viviendas (ergo no hay mercado ni precio de mercado) y la Administración de las muy neoliberales Doña Esperanza Aguirre (Presidenta)&nbsp;y Ana Isabel Mariño (la consejera de vivienda</strong> <font color="#000000">-foto del inicio de este post-</font><strong>) se dedica a poner lo público al servicio de la venta de viviendas entre 180.00 y 290.000 euros (a años luz de los precios de la vivienda protegida).</strong></font></p> <p><strong><font color="#FF0000">Siento ser tan duro, pero estas medidas del Gabinete Aguirre me parecen obscenas. 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